I forgave and praise the lord in my life forgiveness was indeed profitable. 10 And dont let anyone call you Teacher, for you have only one teacher, the Messiah. Jesus forgives and loves and he also needs to be honored is all respects. Being a IFB preacher, I confess a lot of truth here. We fellowship with sister churches of like precious faith and practice, and support missionaries sent forth by the authority of such churches. (Genesis 2:24; Romans 7:2; 1 Corinthians 7:10; Ephesians 5:22-23), We believe that God expressly forbids intimate sexual activity be engaged in outside of a marriage between one man and one woman. If Just As I Am causes you to repent and go to the altar, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. If you think that homosexuality is an unforgivable sin, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 55. What surprises me, though, is that he was ordained as a pastor and actually called to pastor DL Moodys church in Massachusetts as a divorced man. If you think that tithing of ten percent of your income is the minimum I dont have any position on this even though I do believe in tithes and offerings. WebActs 15:36,41; 16:5; I Corinthians 16:1; Galatians 1:1-3; Revelation 1:4, 10, 11. Everyone as an individual should get right with God in whatever he has commanded them. It was organized in Cicero, Illinois, U.S., in June 1930 as the successor to the American Conference of 6. I can use scripture to instruct me how to forgive others and God told me that it is profitable. All rights reserved. To the author, I hope youll be okay someday and if you can find a way to dig out that root I think youll find peace. Each church is autonomous, or self-governing, and contains all human authority for leadership within its congregation. If you think that having a disagreement with a fellow Christian means that you are sowing discord with the brethren, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 53. Im not IFB but I still believe in tithes and offerings. Freedom of choice demands personal responsibility. You can forgive him, that doesnt mean you have to marry him. I hope that you left your church in good terms and that they knew how you felt and whoever was wrong to be revived and allow the precense of God to bring the individual to the norm in other words what christian ought to be not what men want to be. On their arms they wear extra wide prayer boxes with Scripture verses inside, and they wear robes with extra long tassels. 38. For you are like whitewashed tombsbeautiful on the outside but filled on the inside with dead peoples bones and all sorts of impurity. Pastor and his wife paid for reception, photographers, and and shower. Theres a place to rebuke abusive religious practices. They are shared in my article about tithing: https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/. 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. I dont think it applies to all IFB churches, the ones I grew up in didnt do some of these, but the rest definitely apply. I dont know your past, but I know mine and it aint righteous. Scofield came to know Christ AFTER all of that, so I dont hold that against him. or any combination of the above isnt really saved because of that/those behavior(s), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 52. You can read more about that here: https://baptistdeception.com/cult/. The Bible terms pastor, elder, and bishop refer to different responsibilities for the same office. God forgave because Jesus saved. If you go to a church that sings/plays Just As I Am at the end of every service, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 21. Tithing was around since before the Law of Moses. We believe the Blessed Hope of our Lord's return is literal, personal, visible, imminent, premillennial, and pretribulational. I read Matthew 23 just before writing. 35. We believe raising your hands during warship is appropriate, but the Bible specifically says to bow the head 2 Chronicles 20:18. However, it wasnt Baptists that ordained him and of the IFB folks I know, they are lukewarm to the Scofield bible. The New IFB does not consider itself to be a denomination. Landlord Cody Johnson later agreed not to evict Stedfast Baptist from the Watauga location after communicating with Stedfast's lawyer.[15][16]. If you stay, Im almost certain youll end up regretting it. Only thing Ill add to the list is, You might be an IFB if you greet all visitors with huge smiles, handshakes, and extreme cheerfulness. I feel sorry for all the visitors we almost accosted now; no wonder some never came back! The end of November we were going to break up because of physical abuse so instead sought counseling for our pastor and his wife. A friendly fellowship group for members of local New Testament Independent Baptist churches. I believe tithing is good and God blesses those who tithe. Care to elaborate, provide examples? As of 2019, the New IFB listed 32 affiliated co Id have more time to minister to the lost if I didnt have to work to repair the damage done by the IFB. The only sin that is not forgivable is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. You are correct! G. M. Matheny. People to Be Executed", "Deported NZ pastor Logan Robertson shows no remorse for harassing 'sissy' Muslims", "Police investigating Auckland pastor who threatened homosexuals", "Advocates urge supporters to ask landlord to evict Stedfast Baptist", "North Texas church that called for execution of gay people won't be evicted", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Independent_Fundamentalist_Baptist&oldid=1142179437, Baptist denominations established in the 21st century, Anti-Islam sentiment in the United States, Organizations that oppose LGBT rights in the United States, Christian organizations established in 2017, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 28 February 2023, at 23:30. I must forgive others the same way God forgave me. First Works had previously been the site of protests by activists opposed to its anti-LGBTQ teachings, but police reported there was no evidence linking the protesters to the bombing. By the way Jason, if you think theres something spiritual about tolerating abuse, I feel sorry for you. If you think that mental health issues (depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, etc.) 12. 8 Dont let anyone call you Rabbi, for you have only one teacher, and all of you are equal as brothers and sisters. An individual independent church might come up with their own definition of faith, they might subscribe to a preexisting one, or they might not use any. [5], New IFB pastors have been the subjects of controversy on numerous occasions. Gods will was for me to forgive. Saying that Baptism is not necessary for salvation but rather it is an obedience to Christ is a liberal view of baptism and is unbiblical. Illustration by Don Pfaffe appearing in the Central Conservative Baptist Quarterly I know you scoff at my pity but there it is. I remember our pastor asking us if we could forgive each other, and praise the lord we forgave each other for the offenses committed against each other. 1. I want no part of it except to expose it for what it is cultish. I wanted to go to church but was not able to. Tithing is also commanded in the bible and we are to give because he loves us and give with a joyful heart. Ive read all the comments posted so far, but I dont fall into many of those categories as an IFB and Ive been an IFB for almost 13yrs now. 9 Their worship of me is pointless, because their teachings are rules made by humans.. If you are really interested in finding out about my poor experiences with the IFB please read the website rather than make assumptions. 28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. [13] Robertson had previously attracted media attention after he stated that gay people should be shot and New Zealand prime minister Jacinda Ardern should "go home and get in the kitchen". Wherever there are people, there is sin. We believe that the clear message of salvation is repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21). We can joke around about a differing denomination that we dont agree with, but how we react to a situation that wasnt intended, also matters greatly. I hope you found some church that preaches the truth (even though they may differ on some things with me). Good point Steve! No member shall I believe the Bible, and if you do not believe the Bible and hate what the Bible teaches, it is because your opinion is more important to you, than what the Bible says, and if that be so, then there is really no reason for you to go to church in the first place. Pastor and his wife knew where we lived and probably wondered why, but they never asked or pried. We as a couple decided to do things biblical. 4 How can you think of saying to your friend, Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye, when you cant see past the log in your own eye? When you find Christ, you are a new creation and the spirit helps you to live a life that pleases Him, not us. Attending an IFB church is the only way to hear the true gospel and get saved There are so many churches that claim the be the one, true, church, especially the Catholics, Greek Orthodox, Anglicans, some Lutherans, Jehovahs Witnesses, Mormons, etc. WebWOL's Directory of Independent Baptist Churches; Independent Baptist Churches. I was married when I attended before and now as a divorced woman, I know I probably would be looked down upon. Baptist Churches Since 1975 Are From the Ministry of a Man of Whom it Has Been Said: You are probably the most childish acting preacher If you think that three church services per week is the minimum and that you must attend all three every week, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 9. The New IFB does not consider itself to be a denomination. They will trample the pearls, then turn and attack you. I grew up in a IFB school and then university, so I can totally relate. (Hello to all my fellow-tithers!!!) Im told its because when u abandon the real truth, theres hardly any hope. I lied just to get government support saying My child and I live alone. We told to get married. Anybody who opposes the IFB teaching is bitter Cant say that because anybody who opposes BIBLICAL teaching is spiritually blind because they dont know the truth. Thats The Holy Spirit speaking to me. Christ died for his sin already, so he had already been forgiven by God. You should read my article on that: https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/, Dont get me wrong but tithing is still scriptural, even within the New Testament. Mind your own business. Youre supposed to read the word daily, it says give us this day our daily bread. 21 And when you swear by the Temple, you are swearing by it and by God, who lives in it. What if it had been biting you for 5, 10, 15, or (in my case) 25 years and you managed to finally escape would you go back or send a love one to pet it? JUDAH. Years ago, I heard a very funny but truthful skit on what was or wasnt OK. Each verse ended with, Its OK, because Independent Fundamental Baptist Preachers do it.. I forgave him before he changed. If your church funnels in inner city kids via a bus ministry, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 24. 28:19-20; Acts 2:41-42, 18:18; I Corinthians 11:23-26). Most people find it hard to swallow that anyone really thinks that way at all. Three words vacation bible school *shiver*. 26 You blind Pharisee! 49. This is the first and great commandment. No one should be forced to any belief against his or her will. So the IFB pastor did counseling for 2 weeks and then, despite physical abuse, told you to get married! From a biblical standpoint, Jesus is the ONLY mediator between God and Man and only Jesus can intercede us. I forgave through the example of Jesus. Why do people think that I dont have time to pray for loved ones simply because I have this site up? For you cross land and sea to make one convert, and then you turn that person into twice the child of hell you yourselves are! I found myself laughing at quite a few of these because they are things that I used to believe. Plus they believe that one cannot lose his salvation, Eternal Security, or Once Saved, Always Saved on the Calvinist view. If you look down on people who are divorce That is absolutely wrong. WebIndependent Fundamental Baptist Preaching and Bible Study from the Word of God the King James Bible at Vision Valley Baptist Church in MT. 42. Oh yes, and he forgot the most important, essential factorrelated to KJV reliancevirtual ignorance of and illiteracy in biblical Hebrew and Greek!!!!!!!! Im sad to here that fellow Christians cant get along, and I will start praying for all Churchs to be revived. Im pretty sure it WAS/IS alcohol because the bible talks alot about not getting drunk with wine.also take a little wine, etc. If you believe that doing, saying, thinking, etc. Ive used tattoos but not permanent ones. No denomination, governmental body, or religious hierarchy may dictate the church's beliefs or practices. I am a pastor of a Baptist church, but rather than call myself INDEPENDENT, I call myself unaffiliated with the other Baptist Churches. That being said, your list is probably only funny to those of us who have lived it. the Bible teaches us to prove and test matters. As I sit under preaching, sing worship songs unto the Lord, pray earnestly, read my Bible as often as I can, and search through commentaries to help me gain a deeper knowledge instead of surface reading, I KNOW Im drawing closer to God in a personal relationship with Him. We believe the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments to be the Bible, as it is in truth, the Word of God (I Thessalonians 2:13). 6 And they love to sit at the head table at banquets and in the seats of honor in the synagogues. King James is the inspired word of God While I do like the old King James Bible but King James Only is wrong because its misleading and its legalism. I could come to him with anything that was bothering or troubling me and he NEVER judged me or held me in contempt by making me feel like I was less than or not good enough. My pastor has never taught that man can forgive sins. It was fun to read down through comments and feel a little gratified that not everyone was chuckling to themselves againwhy?? Such as??? We believe that the Holy Spirit is the Person who reproves the world of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment; and that He is the Supernatural Agent in regeneration, indwelling all believers and sealing them unto the day of redemption (John 16:8-11; II Corinthians 3:6; Romans 8:9; Ephesians 1:13-14). We dont believe if you get rid of all the sin in your life youll be a completely healthy person. How come many Americans havent heard of the Independent Fundamental Baptist church movement? If you party, DO NOT drink. To love Jesus is to love his word and follow his commands because we love him. To train up a child does not mean to beat him with a rod, although there BE TIMES that a spanking becomes necessary, but NEVER out of anger. Baptists are traditionally strong believers in Biblical authority. I forgot to mention my concerns on some of the other beliefs of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Church: 14. 32 Go ahead and finish what your ancestors started. We believe in the bodily resurrection of all men, the saved to eternal life, and the unsaved to judgment and everlasting punishment (Matthew 25:46; John 5:28, 29, 11:25-26; Revelation 20:5-6, 12-13). Now, I am a 25 year old women with 3 children a 4, 2, and 7 month old and my Husband is 26. If you see buses full of kids of all ethnicities and backgrounds coming to worship together, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. We need no other human agent or spiritual mediator. 54. Is that what the great commission tells us to do: Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and send lost loved ones to an IFB church so that they might be saved (DHV Don Holt Version). Attending all three, in my opinion, is optional. We believe that the strict, literal interpretation of the Bible makes us Baptists. Its concept of an ecclesiastical Kingdom is not supported by Scripture. No one knew about the marriage except us. If your pastor is telling you otherwise hes a heretic. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. I didnt condemn other version by saying Kjv is inspired. IFB people as a whole, are generally willfully ignorant people. I must say, I was hoping the list would be more interesting but the fact mixed into the exaggeration of each point was mostly so true it seemed a bit pointless! This Bible is preserved for the English speaking world without error in the King James Version. This is because we live in this flesh. Would the lost or questioning feel that even if someone is attacking your comments, that youre setting an example that they could adopt? Its not an Old Testament Law vs New Testament issue. All churches are full of sinful people, including the pastor. If I have misunderstood I apologize. 28. They will not participate, as a church, in any outside function with churches which do not also strictly base their faith and practice on the New Testament. And, I am genuinely sorry if any unbiblical or otherwise wrong IFB group, person or church, has hurt anyone here. I have no position or opinion of this (Acts 2:41-47; 1 Corinthians 12:12,18; 2 Corinthians 6:14; Hebrews 10:23-25), Scripture mandates two offices for the local church: Pastor and Deacon. No government should interfere with the local church's preaching, activities, and ministry. For example, #54. Let God tell you who He is in the letter He wrote for you and youll find a love you cannot comprehend. I had a free apartment, food stamps, government phone, and a $60.. utility check every month. The Pharisees were filled with hypocrisy and iniquity and my church is not. I did read it but I still dont understand their beliefs on it.. Its about Jesus. I dont deserve Gods forgiveness or even my husbands forgiveness. Happily a brainwashed Bible-folk for about 28 years with more peace in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ and a firm foundation of absolute truth to stand on (yes, thats the KV, haha!). 40. We dont think rational thought is dangerous. I, too, would never go back to many of the churches that I have been to, but if you search, you will find one that will cause you to grow in your faith and knowledge, and to change and to believe what God has said. The churches that teach certain things unrelated to scripture, are a result of what the Bible calls IN THE LAST DAYS. In the last days, people will leave their first love, just as you have left YOUR first love, probably because of a pastor, an arrogant church member, or maybe because of your very own relationship with God, a relationship that is lacking. I dont know what Daves intentions were. I will say though having grown up in that environment, there was a HUGE sense of support from the congregation, I always knew that if I needed something, I had people surrounding me who would help. Ive known many people whom God has reached using the IFB. ALL sins are forgivable, even homosexuality although it is a detestable sin in Gods eyes. We wanted help and we wanted to know what the Bible said.
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