Srixon WG-706 56 w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. When you take the wedge out of the bag you notice the fuller toe, and there is more material behind the head. You're delusional if you think any amateur on WRX that claims to have similar numbers to the longer pros thinks they are also as good as a tour pro. I already use the SM8s and having seen the drop off in spin and different performance of my swing (I am less steep at impact these days) I will be changing wedges. Your previous content has been restored. [/quote] I don't measure my driver distance. I dont want my Vokeys to look different to the past designs, I barely want them to perform differently either as you want reliability around the greens. He is giving up 30 yards of total distance off the tee, which makes his approach shots more difficult. I think the average student that I ask tells me that a tour player hits a 6 iron 220 yards. The AMA is capable of carrying the ball much further than his current total distance. Add That Little Extra Limited is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees (at no cost to you) by linking to Amazon.com. As you can guess my improvement has now become dependent on driver efficiency and distance. Top 50 Pros Analysis. They are clean and contemporary. Club head speed is around 90 MPH giving me a distance of 214 yrds. I can't seem to find them. All rights reserved, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Charles-Lambert-video-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Justin-Thomas-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/20220908_125734.mp4. But he does not average those. Ha, okay. Absolutely awesome numbers though. BALL; Chrome Soft X. Consistency is Key, Are Driving Range Distances Accurate? I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! I hit the same. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. Flexibility, speed, and knowing how to transfer energy the most effi 4 out of 1000 swings avg 117 mph? Trackman stats obviously don't mean that much either. DShawn Johnson Short hitter compared to the average WRXer [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364416375' post='6708959'] http://web.tigerwoods.com/onTour/seasonStatistics. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364416031' post='6708919'] Top 100 Player Analysis, drivers and fairway woods the top 100 PGA Tour players, How Do Pros Hit the Ball So Far? Web27K views, 94 likes, 1 loves, 33 comments, 13 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from TrackMan: Congratulations to Justin Thomas, winning the CJ Cup! The average green size at Torrey Pines South is 6,000 square feet. So next time the announcer says that someone is hitting a 5 iron from 223, keep in mind that its mostly conditions, and note where the ball actually carries. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. It should make you a little. It's good for some laughs. Thanks. [/quote] Hcap 5 will be around 68. Since SM6 Vokeys have evolved subtly to be exactly what tour players want. any 7 iron data ? The 12 felt good but the 8 slid through the turf and cushioned the ball off the face. Have a look at his driver and 6 iron swing, incl. pleased to hear you are enjoying it now though. why you did not work that out or your friends did not suggest it I dont know. Sorry for the ramble. I suppose you have the biggest and fastest car as well ? Hi Gerry. Shaft: Aldila NV, 7-wood: Callaway Big Bertha Yes! Short hitter compared to the average WRXer Launch Angle 11.28 The handicap system is equally misleading as the vast amount of amateur golfers dont have a handicap, and if they did, they would be 36.4. My handicap is 24, but my driving (swing) works well. I don't play professional golf. My spin dropped 500 rpm on average and my flight favoured the left side. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. How about heading out to Wedgefield in Georgetown, SC? What Irons Do the Pros Use? I think you wish you hit it further. I'm not on here to impress anyone with my driving distance but that doesn't mean I didn't hit it that far. [b]Tiger Woods[/b] As a whole PGA pros hit their pitching wedge an average carry distance of 141 yards. In 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. That's what I think. I am a 35 year old AMA at a 15. I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. Very interesting but sort of depressing article. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. :-). There are golfers out there who are scratch only hitting the ball 200-250. But if you take the averages over a season you are going to get more than a good idea of how far the pros are hitting each club. You can see the fuller head at the top of the toe in the lob wedges when the clubs are aligned next to each other, but you can only slightly notice a change in shape at address. Titleist fitting last summer at my home course. My SM8 wedges are a few years old and have played over the recommended 75 rounds. For years, Justin has quietly used his fame and financial wherewithal to help many. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. Is it around 25-35% less than the AMA group? While the length of the course is an important factor in scoring, more so is the challenging greens and required approach shots. =t 'BRvGGs.Du="dP0 J/% Np^=+,5I,F5HH#418y\PuQ5) x9.>5?2P5@B$bz.k^OY<>Vf.%,(H8,~f3YzWBpj|!8K^E`$D &XP9gBTl+= Tg{\(k@bW6o9e:&x$hx"o0@:+}UnMD($R*3|>M}18&oA>m Ed&Z):Y{J|'@*bT6|QNbge2RU'02_^^{ It takes persistence and painstaking practice to regularly do drills designed to help improve your swing speed, not to mention the constant measuring to ensure you are in fact improving your swing speed. I blame it on TV coverage. I appreciate your thoughts, great article. This informative information was more helpful for golfers. Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. Jordan Spieth WITB 2021 (May Charles Schwab Challenge), Jordan Spieth WITB: 2020 Farmers Insurance Open, Jordan Spieth winning WITB: 2022 RBC Heritage, WITB Time Machine: Jordan Spieths 2015 John Deere Classic winning WITB. 200 to 225 yards. Im 65 years old. If I have a front pin with a hard green, I would go at it harder with the shorter club, maybe a 150 yard pitching wedge. Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom, 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) Im a baseball coach who plays golf when I can. I think this is very interesting but misleading. Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] Finally the bunker shot, this is where I feel Vokey really stand out and help my game. My experience suggests that this is true. For example while one pros gap wedge may be 50 another may choose 53 or even 54 for that same gap wedge club and with such a difference in lofts it becomes very difficult to compare with any meaning how far the pros hit the same-named wedge. Very unfortunately most of us are too busy with other things we need to do. The following chart shows average handicap versus average club speed. My average driver distance over 2 full rounds it 223 yards and that includes the one or two bad shots off the box that only goes 100 plus yards just above the red Ts . Hitting long irons or hybrids into all of the par 4s does not set the AMA up for an enjoyable day on the golf course. He was also the beneficiary of a grant that afforded him the opportunity to travel and pursue his junior golf career. Once you except your limitations, you can get out and enjoy the game we LOVE instead of loathing it. This philosophy has been a revelation to me. Simmer down, all. Our TrackMan Combine database would contain the answer to those questions, but it would require significant work to pull that information out. He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. get up and down 3 out of the 5 times you miss the green makes all the difference. [/quote] [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] Theyre familiar and consistent, you wont see Bob Vokey ever designing a wedge with a high toe or full face of grooves. <> I also shot 86. A former tour pro told me he hit a tree branch off the tee that knocked his ball down, and it affected his average for the whole year by 15 yards. Driver: Titleist TSi3 (10 degrees) Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X 3-wood: Titleist TSR3 (15 degrees @ 14.25) Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW Blue 75 TX Hybrid: Titleist TSi2 (21 degrees) Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ [] Shafts: KBS Tour 125 S+, Wedges: TaylorMade Milled Grind 3 (50-09SB, 54-11SB, 60-08LB) Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) Top 50 Player Guide. If it's a longer hole, I'll play the driver. Especially the average driving distance data. Display as a link instead, T 'enG~q/Om\#Q`{ HLRpC45`|NiG*"2agUTeu9d10S8xl?O`,`~ja~=j'(d~e?7UN+&iHPI=8NQQ={"K9R1d"3j$NJd[?@fUM)IxJ)Sn-bcVk7*"d9;&!0tB%=7$W&q&:L^q1|T]6k)SF Add Driving Distance by Analyzing the Worlds Longest Driver! Dont think they ever release that stuff. I would recommend that you go visit a TrackMan certified coach, he/she will be able to help you with your club speed. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5 (46), Project X 120 6.0 (52-60), Putter: Scotty Cameron 009 Dont think they ever release that stuff. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high I guess that's laughable though, right? Lets go one step further and use the TrackMan Combine data to see what kind of proximity to hole the AMA will be able to achieve at the various approach distances. any 7 iron data ? Through such initiatives as the Justin Thomas Youth of the Year Leadership Academy with the Boys & Girls Club of Kentuckiana, USA Cares and the First Tee, Justin is committed to showing compassion, displaying kindness, and making a difference in the world. [quote name='swanry30' timestamp='1364407652' post='6707945'] Its unrealistic for most amateurs to break 100 on courses that share the aforementioned conditions, which is what a lot of the courses of today present. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5, Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM9 (46-10F @46.5, 52-08F @51.5, 56-10S @55.5), Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (60.5 T) [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. Does Trackman update this data each year? The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. xV#+D7xEouj|_\ctk--[ne5a|N}x^. I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. Bilan, I think you should rub one out before you get to first tee box. I agree with you 100%. F rom the comfort of your sofa or if youre lucky, alongside the ropes each major championship gives you a chance to see the biggest hitters in the world unsheathe their drivers and swing away. Bob Vokey makes the best wedges for the best players in the world on behalf of Titleist. I have played golf for 22 years. x]I]618nI9^R? As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph. There he became one of the storied programs most decorated athletes being named Phil Mickelson Freshman of the Year, Jack Nicklaus Player of the Year, the Haskins Award Winner as the most outstanding player in collegiate and amateur golf, and capped his collegiate career by helping the Crimson Tide win their first National Championship in 2013. He is 180 ball speed off the driver with outstanding launch numbers. Those numbers seem about right. Not uncommon these days for elite swing speed There is CG shift between lofts and there is a progressive hosel length in the wedges to balance out weight distribution. He is committed to having a positive effect on their lives. Apex Height 112' 11" #TeamTrackMan You're delusional if you think any amateur on WRX that claims to have similar numbers to the longer pros thinks they are also as good as a tour pro. The next table uses the approach distances from the previous and calculates the proximity to hole. That's my opinion at least. Fan Mail Justin Thomas Imagine throwing darts as the commentary teams say on television. 4 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X, Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x, Putter- Odyssey Vesa 12 center stroke lab shaft. TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley - YouTube 0:00 / 5:10 TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley 158,856 views Feb 26, 2013 See how [/quote] The average for those golfers was 117 mph. I actually feel I get more out irons than I do the woods. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. Thanks this will help my golf game so much now. I am writing a dissertation at university and was wondering how you got all your data. You can watch my full review via the Golfalot YouTube channel here: If you like what you see, please make sure you SUBSCRIBE to our YouTube channel to see all Golfalot video reviews and features first. Milled grooves - SM9 sees Titleist use a new saw to cut their grooves, instead of stamping them onto the face. Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: Your shot versatility is obtained by a comprehensive 23 head options in different lofts, grinds and bounces. To make such large scale improvements, we must first better understand the patientin order to diagnose the problems. I don't measure my driver distance. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. timestamp='1364355784' post='6704107'] But then on the next hole when they come back down the hill with the wind behind them, they all go 340. Is here any benefit ideas about beginners level women, what you say? Length is nothing. Most golfers I know are happy to drive the ball 200 yards and keep it in the fairway. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364404259' post='6707501'] I'm BARELY 250 off the tee, but I will mop the floor with most from 125 in I am guarded from the bladed strike when hitting the lob shot which then builds a trust and compliment to my short game. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. That tells hard to say for sure who was at fault in the beginning i am 7 handicap play with a friend who is 26-28 i play blue he plays white even when an extra player joins me on the blue he still plays white. Please include a self-addressed envelope with prepaid postage for return. Graeme started playing golf when he was only 4 years old and has loved the game ever since. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. How many average golfers drive the ball 250 yards and keep it in the fairway? [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364414933' post='6708795'] The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. The average USGA handicap for male golfers has been between 14.0 and 15.0 since 2005. But if you can hit it 275 on your home muni track, that is at least 290 on a tour track with manicured fairways and perfect level tee boxes to hit from. also his AoD on the stinger. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Impacting the game through junior golf programs has always been an important part of his charitable giving. I have the occasional outlier above 250 but thats rare. [/quote] [/quote] Learn how your comment data is processed. 100% of all funds raised with be used to make a constructive and quality impact for a deserving child, family or charity. On average PGA pros hit a 3-iron a carry distance the distance from strike to point of ground impact of 217 yards. The driver is almost always the most talked about golf club in everyone's bag. Hang Time 5.8 [quote name='eddie_max' timestamp='1364438260' post='6711367'] This is so I could hit it higher and spin it more, enabling me to access that tough pin position. The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X, 3-wood: Titleist TSR3 (15 degrees @ 14.25) Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide, What Wedges Do the Pros Use? It will make it a lot easier to give a qualified answer if we have all the numbers :-). When I watch professional events I am always taken aback by how high they hit their driver but how low they hit their wedges. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer As we can again see from Brooks Koepkas yardage book above he has 5 different yardages listed for each of his specialist wedges which highlights just how much distance control the best golfers in the world can exert with their wedges. [/color] Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. However don't be overwhelmed, the good news is that there is only one set up choice in the PW, two in the GW and multiple in SW and LW due to the wider range of shorter shots you play with these clubs. [/quote] Firstly there is really no need to play an 8 iron that long, secondly why on earth would you play nothing but trap draws especially with short iron And I suppose they hit it relatively far, but nearly the distances that the public thinks. Scotty Cameron SS Newport Beach w/ UST Frequency Filter and Rosemark Thorn 1.52 grip. Without such a grant, his family would not have been able to follow his passion. Mr Vokey has listened and gone on to design a wedge with the feedback of those players in mind. Going back to Torrey Pines South, that is somewhere between the Green and White tees. Its important to turn your body to get that extra speed. Once AMA understands the likely outcomes for various shots, then he can most effectively implement course strategy for the benefit of improving his golf performance. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. |K_ %E_{/{5* Bx2 @ xM6#N This promotes a lower ball flight and is seen by tour players as being a more accurate shot than having the ball float into the air. [quote name='markheardjr' timestamp='1364403013' post='6707345'] Before it is assumed that the AMA should simply club up, actual distances with each club should be determined.
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